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to comment educated on NASA because we

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don't know right like I don't work for

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NASA and we basically as far as we can

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more than they're telling us which we

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all of them yeah like which we all agree

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going to be a little refreshing where we

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have Darcy Weir uh a filmmaker young guy

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also proud Canadian like we are but he

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has done a deep dive on what NASA has

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collected sensors videos even their own

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personnel and if you're like us where

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you thought the buck stopped with well

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NASA knows but we'll never know I think

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you might learn something that there is

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a lot of information out there you did a

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fabulous job compiling it all and we

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questions you know like what does all

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this mean military wise politics wise

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how does this involve the experience

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answer phenomenon I think it'll be a

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cool show and one that we haven't done

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crafts are coming from outer space that

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are entering the atmospheres we haven't

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from the atmosphere to inside the water

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but this is an interesting subject

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the visitors or visitations that we have

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point a lot of people say that you know

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they're already on Earth they somehow

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manifest or they they transition through

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yeah it's pretty amazing when NASA has

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actual footage of things coming from out

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of orbit into that and then into the

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atmosphere of the earth it does back

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that up so it's going to be an

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today's guest our see where so with that

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we'll be right back we'll play some

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fancy music here Jay you got her cued up

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I love it and uh we'll be right back

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with Darcy Weir right here on UAP

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welcome back to another episode of UAP

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studies podcast my name is Louis Borges

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joining me as always my best buddy Jason

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Gilman I'm excited for today Louie we're

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doing two interviews this is our second

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interview of the day we got Darcy and

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I'm gonna admit something to you Darcy I

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have seen your films I did not put your

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name to those films when uh Louis put

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your name on the calendar I'm like oh

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cool this guy did a documentary on Space

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UFOs that's so cool I did not put the

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two and two together until uh I saw all

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the information I'm like I've seen a lot

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of these movies I know who this guy is

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so I'm sorry I didn't recognize you from

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the start it's uh it's it's amazing and

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humbling experience at the same time

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it's great to have you on man hey thanks

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I honestly hear that a lot believe it or

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not we're gonna fix that today brother

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so many people are just like who is this

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guy like what many thousands of people

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more will now know who you are at the

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end of this so uh and it's cool because

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we're talking about something we don't

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talk about often which is NASA and I

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think everybody kind of says

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tongue-in-cheek you know we all agree

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NASA knows more than they allude but

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that's about as far as the conversation

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can go because we don't work for NASA we

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don't know anybody who works for NASA

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they're not talking so it's really a

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moot point so it's good that you've put

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so much time and energy researching this

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getting actual evidence and proof and

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putting it together in a really well

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um welcome to the show first of all it's

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great to have you here fellow Canadian

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glad to have you buddy you bet thanks

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for having me both here Louie and Jason

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yeah and secret space UFOs fast Walkers

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is the name of the film uh Darcy has

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produced over 15 full length feature

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films uh he's traveled worldwide doing

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this type of thing and he's even gone so

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far as to say it is his mission to make

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this more accessible for the general

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public by just shedding light on it

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through film and other projects so

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you're very much like us we're not doing

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this for the notoriety the fame the

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money we're doing it for the topic and

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and uh so why let me ask you why NASA

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project so to speak

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guy named Jose escamilla a former UFO

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researcher and documentarian he made he

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was actually famous for making

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UFOs The Greatest Story Ever denied

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we're not alone in the universe

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did want two on the moon I think one of

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them was called Moon Rising

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moon and stuff and he was actually

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collaborated with on this series his

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he's out in Ontario uh but anyways this

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guy and I got together started chatting

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dedicate some time to fleshing out some

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of the material you've collected

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combining it with some of the history

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and research I've done and the

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interviews I've done with uh subject

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matter experts in the UFO field and just

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really make a a strong thesis of

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has been suppressing UFO events and UFO

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encounters the whole phenomenon from the

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public for a long time and I think it's

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currently embroiled in investigating UAP

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research group of 15 dedicated

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scientists from different fields and

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backgrounds and um

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the history that I've kind of uncovered

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of certain anomalous events that have uh

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existence and and their exploration of

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space uh as a scientific group on behalf

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mankind really and

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realize but not NASA was originally

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started as NACA in 1958 and uh that

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for Aeronautics and soon after not too

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Aeronautics and Space Administration and

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is the greatest Frontier for mankind in

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terms of dominating or exerting military

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clarification regarding certain UAP

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documentary but I I ended up you know

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putting it into this greater documentary

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series that uh you guys have now seen a

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NASA and and secret space UFO encounters

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the aspects of you know when they're

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occupants of these crafts and civilians

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from the get-go NASA must have already

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had some sort of contingency plan in the

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event that they're astronauts when they

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send to the Moon would encounter

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something that's not from here and they

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they landed and we got Buzz Aldrin that

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mentioned that he saw something they

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switched over to the medical or the

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surprised them still surprised the

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astronauts but what what do you think

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you know from the get-go from the word

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go when we first went to the moon and we

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encountered these entities what do you

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think happened at Nasa to to make him

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all of a sudden take interest in this

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and and to keep it quiet

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well uh if you take a look at some of

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the previous documentaries I've done in

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this series secret space UFOs

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um

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in the beginning or uh secret space UFOs

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NASA's first missions we basically break

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down

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the very first NASA designated

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um astronaut missions which is the X-15

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which was a rocket propelled

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jet that was uh mounted to a modified B2

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bomber to the wing of it and it would

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take off when it was high up uh fly into

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low earth orbit and you know these are

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the first Pilots to be designated

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astronauts and two of those Pilots Joe

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Walker and uh

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uh

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they both

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UFOs and one of their reports went into

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Life magazine in 1961

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and talked about you know how he thought

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it would just be something prosaic at

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first like uh something that had come

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off a tank or something on the craft or

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maybe a a piece of metal or whatever it

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was but it wasn't it seemed to be

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keeping Pace with the craft and moving

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alongside of him and so that really you

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know stuck with him as a anomalous event

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and it you know looked

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like a typical UFO of the time would be

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I guess some kind of disc shape

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um the other pilot said that

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he had seen three or five of these

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crafts flying above his X-15 when he

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went up and he set at a conference that

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he was speaking at where he leaked some

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photos of a craft that he had taken

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that was in space out of Earth warbit

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are in Earth orbit

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um he said that you know this is one of

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many photos that I've uh that I took and

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actually NASA had tasked us with taking

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photos

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and this is the 1961 1962 like this is

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since the Inception of NASA and they

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first started going to space

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and if you look at um

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the idea that NASA is connected to the

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Air Force connected to the Navy and

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intelligence agencies they also most

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likely follow the same classification

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and safeguarding methodologies when it

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comes to information not reaching the

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public so uh you know Dr uh

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President Eisenhower Dwight D Eisenhower

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enacted uh executive order

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10501 back in 1951 you know post-world

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War II

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at the end of 1951 they wrote it up I

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think it went through in 1952 and

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essentially what that said that was the

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the first legal free framework for

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academic institutions linked to the

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government

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um scientific institutions like NASA and

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Military and intelligence agencies to

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legally Safeguard information from the

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public meaning classify

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information

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so I think from the get-go NASA has been

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legally allowed to cooperate with

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intelligence and Military agencies to

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safeguard information from the public

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they've been allowed to classify

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information

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and if you look at some of the documents

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that we got out of NASA and in some of

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our previous documentaries you look at

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for example the transcripts

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from uh the astronauts Black Box flight

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recorder that they either had on the VTR

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during the Gemini missions

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the bridge to the Moon missions or the

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actual Apollo missions where they went

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to the moon they had the dsea flight

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recorder

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and they talk about anomalous stuff that

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they're seeing up there and you know

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researchers like Carrie martinuk and

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many others have poured through these

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documents since they were released and

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it says on the very front page

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classified now Declassified after 12

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years

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so why would NASA have to classify

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transcripts

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if they were worried you know about some

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you know censoring something from the

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public in the first place it just means

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that uh you know information is

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controlled in our in our society

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especially when it comes to space

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related matters because certain things

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that were seen or done up there might be

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of a National Defense concern and if you

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listen to the lore of UFOs

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um in you know many different statements

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and documents that have come out from

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memos and Communications between the

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military uh you know multiple different

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Military Officers and departments

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throughout history we always see the

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same pattern of UFOs being Above Top

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Secret you know being uh

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more top secret than the atomic bomb

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studies of uh Oppenheimer days so

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I think from the get-go NASA

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has been in on the secret to some extent

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to do with UFOs I think they have

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procedures to cover that up

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and

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um I've been documenting

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that they've been doing that to some

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degree

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for

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more than five decades at this point

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since their Inception and this latest

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documentary covers from 1973 until now

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and um

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multiple UFO events that have started in

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space

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we find out you know the word that the

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word fast Walker originates from the Air

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Force

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from NORAD

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and uh

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John Greenwald

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who's a really intelligent researcher in

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the UAP UAP UFO phenomenon Community

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originally did Freedom of Information

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Act requests and tried to get uh

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fast Walker documents and such from

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NORAD

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but we saw that term come up in many of

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their manuals in the Air Force manuals

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as well as NORAD

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manuals and documents and they refer to

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fast Walker events so events where

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space-based

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objects

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are anomalous anomalously moving very

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fast

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um obviously with some kind of

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intelligent

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um

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design meaning

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they're operating with intelligence uh

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dropping into our atmosphere moving

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around Earth or just staying above the

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Earth's atmosphere and moving around in

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space

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um they also note slow Walkers which are

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a known object

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that are of little concern and those

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would be your typical satellite because

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a satellite just moves across

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space Gliding Over the Earth you know

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and

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um

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so we covered fast Walker events in this

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documentary we cover space-based UFO

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anomalies that have been caught on

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satellite technology

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that have been caught on ground-based

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radar and tracked with you know radio

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telescope

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um technology and then we cover like

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actual cameras recording these anomalies

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in space off of NASA's

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space cameras and astronauts cameras

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yeah they always seem to you know point

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at all it's whenever there's like a live

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feed or a video something to do with

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NASA and something's flying through it's

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always oh that's ice even if it looks

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like diamond dust in a formation of

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things that's just a whole lot of ice or

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it's a spent rocket booster or that's

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just space junk or in your film you

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featured quite a few videos that were

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amazing like and I want you to talk a

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little bit about some of those the one

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that I think for me was craziest was a

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formation it looked like a formation

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that spanned half of the planet with one

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in the middle finally lighting up and

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you can tell these things are moving

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intelligently you've tracked some of

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them that are going one way they stop

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and then go the other like non-Newtonian

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physics these things are under some kind

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of intelligent control so maybe touch a

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little bit on some of the video uh

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footage that you have in your film sure

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so the one you're talking about with the

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formation Over the Horizon of Earth

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um it's also in black and white color

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that we explained earlier in the film

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that that's actually a technology called

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far light ultraviolet camera technology

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so it's literally being recorded in a

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light spectrum that the human eye can't

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even see in

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um and the reason why they would be

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doing that again I think is for them to

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have

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excellent view of any anomalies or

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strange things that are out there in

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space

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otherwise you would just record in

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regular light spectrum that our normal

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cameras can do

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um so that's sts80 that's where that uh

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video clip comes from and that was over

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Africa

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and you see I think about eight objects

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that are uh

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forming a circle

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and then one object kind of starts off

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opaque near the camera so obviously is

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traveling past

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the uh view of the camera past the crap

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the spacecraft and then goes into the

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middle of that formation and illuminates

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um highly anomalous you know very weird

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looking and

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um

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to me

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so for people to understand when it

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comes to space and any spacecraft being

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up there if you're talking about let's

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say the shuttle for example I think just

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the shuttle being up there and drifting

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it's traveling at about uh 14

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000 miles per hour okay so if you see

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something passing the shuttle and then

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uh stopping and remaining in one place

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in a formation that is also sort of

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staying in a

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synchronous pattern and moving those

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objects are moving down into the

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atmosphere and possibly back up it looks

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like because you can actually see the

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layer of the atmosphere above the

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Horizon of the Earth in the distance so

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you have all these indications of what

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these objects are doing

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possibly

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you have to imagine that this thing is

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traveling faster than 14 000 miles per

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hour and then stopping and you know

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being part of a formation it's very odd

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so

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um what you could explain that to be if

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you are just using conventional terms is

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maybe this is like some kind of top

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secret satellite system that NASA is

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recording on behalf of you know an

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intelligence or military agency uh that

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that video will be later reviewed by

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them or something but

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um you know when you when this video is

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speculated upon in in the past guys like

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Jim oberg have remarked that that was

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simply space ice

562
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:09,240
and space ice doesn't operate like that

563
00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:11,700
um so I don't know what it is it could

564
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,780
have been

565
00:25:16,730 --> 00:25:15,360
you know UFOs as we conventionally think

566
00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:16,740
it could have been some kind of top

567
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,280
secret technology also I don't know but

568
00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:22,860
I know that it's not space ice in my

569
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:25,740
logic there's no way Jim said that that

570
00:25:30,890 --> 00:25:28,500
one that moved into the middle was space

571
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:30,900
ice because it only becomes fully

572
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:34,880
observed later due to uh near-earth

573
00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:38,460
conditions and probably like burning up

574
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:40,440
or something like that right

575
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:44,220
right I don't buy it yeah yeah and what

576
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:46,080
what fascinates me in your documentaries

577
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:49,080
you point out exactly how many freaking

578
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,539
cameras there are in space like whenever

579
00:25:54,890 --> 00:25:53,520
we see space image from you know the

580
00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:54,900
satellites we got like Hubble and now

581
00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:56,940
James Webb but the ones that are

582
00:25:59,930 --> 00:25:58,500
pointing back at the Earth we don't

583
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,940
normally see those pictures of

584
00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:02,640
occasionally a few from astronauts but

585
00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:04,860
there are so many cameras and you're

586
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:06,779
talking about the DSP satellites and

587
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:09,240
there's over I think you mentioned 283

588
00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:11,880
fast Walkers that were detected by these

589
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,340
satellites the activity in these

590
00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:16,080
satellites are all over the planet I

591
00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:17,640
mean it's not just localized this is

592
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,620
everywhere that's picking up the amount

593
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:21,360
of activity that has taken place

594
00:26:28,190 --> 00:26:24,659
globally on any given day

595
00:26:30,049 --> 00:26:28,200
is uh I don't know how this I would say

596
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,059
astronomical but it's a lot of activity

597
00:26:34,010 --> 00:26:32,400
the plan is like a beehive they come and

598
00:26:35,330 --> 00:26:34,020
go as they wish and there's nothing we

599
00:26:38,269 --> 00:26:35,340
can do about it

600
00:26:41,810 --> 00:26:38,279
with NASA and the Army sort of merging

601
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:41,820
together now and creating space force in

602
00:26:45,769 --> 00:26:43,860
your opinion having studied this you

603
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:45,779
know NASA in the military's interests

604
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,120
and what's going on in space

605
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,640
are we picking a fight or are we just

606
00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:53,039
trying to give ourselves a bit of

607
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:55,260
comfort by saying we can control what's

608
00:27:00,529 --> 00:26:57,720
above our atmosphere if we have military

609
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:00,539
personnel there is it is that like are

610
00:27:05,810 --> 00:27:02,220
we out of our depths here

611
00:27:07,789 --> 00:27:05,820
yeah I mean like the space force which

612
00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:07,799
which is the sixth

613
00:27:13,070 --> 00:27:10,740
branch of the military now and

614
00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:13,080
apparently they're supposed to be you

615
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,380
know uh sit above all others at this

616
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,440
point it it signifies

617
00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:21,840
some somewhat what you're saying that

618
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:25,260
they're they're trying to create this

619
00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:28,140
perspective probably for adversaries as

620
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:31,620
well as Citizens here in North America

621
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:34,799
that they got this covered right like

622
00:27:39,769 --> 00:27:37,919
they're going to have Supreme Supremacy

623
00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:39,779
in space

624
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,320
um and Alara who's in the documentary uh

625
00:27:46,610 --> 00:27:45,840
covers space force really well she

626
00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:46,620
actually

627
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:48,779
um has like a segment at the very end

628
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:50,340
and

629
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:51,000
um

630
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:52,620
I definitely wanted to bring her in

631
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:54,600
because we were talking for like years

632
00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:57,840
about her Research into space force and

633
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:59,400
um how

634
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:02,159
she'd been speaking with a high-ranking

635
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:04,260
military official that worked for the

636
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:05,880
space force and was finding out really

637
00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:08,220
what they're doing

638
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:11,460
um and essentially

639
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:15,600
it comes down to getting better

640
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:18,360
data so they will be like releasing

641
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:22,140
satellites and uh enabling artificial

642
00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:26,520
intelligence and monitoring airspace and

643
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,220
outer space like never before in the

644
00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:32,100
public eye probably somewhat too but

645
00:28:35,169 --> 00:28:34,020
then they're also going to be like

646
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,179
probably

647
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,919
putting up some kind of weapon systems

648
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:39,840
in the future

649
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:40,980
um

650
00:28:45,649 --> 00:28:43,380
I think

651
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:45,659
that theater of war is the ultimate

652
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,580
theater of war if you

653
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:49,679
command that theater then you command

654
00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:52,740
the planet somewhat right yeah yeah and

655
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:54,900
people are all afraid of Russia that has

656
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,700
these new types of missiles that kind of

657
00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:58,799
come down as fast as an asteroid right

658
00:29:05,570 --> 00:29:01,140
and there's like literally no detection

659
00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:05,580
systems supposedly that could prevent or

660
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:09,059
stop these from striking a country right

661
00:29:13,549 --> 00:29:11,700
which is scary if you think about where

662
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:13,559
we're at this flash point right now

663
00:29:18,649 --> 00:29:16,320
between Russia China and the US you

664
00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:18,659
don't want one of those coming down so

665
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:21,720
space force could be one of these uh

666
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,000
defense agencies that's preparing to

667
00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:26,880
protect away from that protect

668
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:29,640
uh the country and North America from

669
00:29:35,630 --> 00:29:33,240
these types of uh arms

670
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:35,640
reaching

671
00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:37,080
uh

672
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:39,960
the countries right so

673
00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:40,799
um

674
00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:44,220
I think space force

675
00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:48,360
is good to some degree and I think

676
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:50,580
um obviously if we're going to become a

677
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:54,720
space-faring nation uh civilization and

678
00:30:02,269 --> 00:29:57,840
we're going to be following the

679
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:02,279
direction of NASA by putting bases on

680
00:30:09,169 --> 00:30:04,980
the far side of the moon and uh publicly

681
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:09,179
and also going to Mars with Elon musk's

682
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:11,700
Endeavors you're probably going to want

683
00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:14,399
a space force backing them up right

684
00:30:18,889 --> 00:30:15,779
you're going to want some kind of

685
00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:18,899
military presence that's able to escort

686
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:22,740
observe and protect and defend these

687
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,080
American or uh American Allies interests

688
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:30,480
right and Canada for example we're all

689
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:34,140
Canadians on this this uh show

690
00:30:40,610 --> 00:30:38,100
um we've been active in space with NASA

691
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,620
for a very long time right especially

692
00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:42,720
with the Canadian space arm a lot of

693
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:45,539
those robotic arms and stuff you see on

694
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:48,240
the uh shuttles

695
00:30:54,649 --> 00:30:51,840
are they those are our inventions and uh

696
00:30:57,529 --> 00:30:54,659
we're constantly aiding

697
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,539
um NASA in their Endeavors in space

698
00:31:02,210 --> 00:30:59,760
yeah and in terms of those inventions

699
00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:02,220
and sort of machinery and Personnel in

700
00:31:07,310 --> 00:31:04,740
space that Nasa owns I mean you had

701
00:31:09,289 --> 00:31:07,320
Skylab in 1973 right the first

702
00:31:12,529 --> 00:31:09,299
scientific Observer observation

703
00:31:15,649 --> 00:31:12,539
laboratory space station yeah station

704
00:31:18,049 --> 00:31:15,659
yeah and then ISS but yeah that's right

705
00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:18,059
way before the ISS and then DSP this

706
00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:20,520
sort of aerojet company spy satellites

707
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:22,740
that are very specifically looking for

708
00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:25,200
things coming into and out of orbit like

709
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:27,260
they would be the greatest UFO tracking

710
00:31:32,029 --> 00:31:30,120
satellite you could have and then you

711
00:31:34,970 --> 00:31:32,039
know the ISS and even shuttle missions

712
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,980
so maybe give us some thoughts on NASA's

713
00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:37,440
own people that have seen this and their

714
00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:39,000
own Hardware that's picking this stuff

715
00:31:42,529 --> 00:31:40,980
up what do you think like how can you

716
00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:42,539
say no when it's your own people that

717
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:44,580
are saying yeah I've seen this and you

718
00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:45,779
know even going back to the guys who

719
00:31:49,789 --> 00:31:47,159
went to the moon some of them have

720
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:49,799
openly said they either believe or they

721
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,360
have proof and that's the reason they

722
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:54,240
believe right I mean

723
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:56,580
a lot of the astronauts that did go to

724
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:59,100
the Moon do not

725
00:32:01,490 --> 00:32:00,659
talk about

726
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:01,500
um

727
00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:05,340
their encounters with UFOs in space

728
00:32:11,049 --> 00:32:08,460
I know that uh Neil Armstrong and Buzz

729
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:11,059
Aldrin kind of talked about their

730
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:14,580
encounter with Apollo 11 something kind

731
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:16,860
of following them to the Moon that they

732
00:32:21,289 --> 00:32:18,299
were tracking they thought it was the

733
00:32:24,649 --> 00:32:21,299
s4b which is a upper stage of the rocket

734
00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:24,659
that got them into space but uh

735
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,200
obviously it wasn't it should not have

736
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:29,760
been that

737
00:32:35,149 --> 00:32:33,000
um but uh there there haven't been a lot

738
00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:35,159
of astronauts and most of them deny it

739
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:37,740
you know if you even look at um

740
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:42,000
the Gemini missions uh Frank

741
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:45,299
Gemini 7 Frank

742
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:47,460
uh Borman

743
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:49,140
I'm thinking

744
00:32:56,090 --> 00:32:52,559
I'm horrible with names darcyak yeah he

745
00:32:58,909 --> 00:32:56,100
he you know reported a bogey during

746
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:58,919
Gemini 7 and that kind of hit the news

747
00:33:04,430 --> 00:33:01,679
and uh was being reported in all these

748
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,440
magazines and stuff and Frank Borman

749
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,000
uh

750
00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:08,880
did a lot of work to debunk that and in

751
00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:10,740
fact you know there's a C-SPAN interview

752
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:13,080
I included in NASA's first missions

753
00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:14,279
where

754
00:33:18,590 --> 00:33:16,919
it seemed like the reporter had like

755
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:18,600
pretty much finished her line of

756
00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:20,340
questioning but didn't want to leave out

757
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:24,360
that UFO encounter uh and make sure that

758
00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:26,100
he mentioned that and debunked that

759
00:33:31,850 --> 00:33:29,640
because UFOs have always been sort of an

760
00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:31,860
interest to people in the public and he

761
00:33:36,649 --> 00:33:33,539
said it was silly and it was just a

762
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:36,659
rumor but why would you refer to

763
00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:39,480
something in space as a bogey right he

764
00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:40,740
said that well we were trying to

765
00:33:46,009 --> 00:33:43,559
identify the Gina stage for the

766
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:46,019
spacecraft

767
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,120
um it was like a rocket system that you

768
00:33:51,289 --> 00:33:50,159
could link up with in space once they

769
00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:51,299
were in orbit

770
00:33:57,049 --> 00:33:55,080
uh their capsule could and

771
00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:57,059
it just does it didn't make any sense

772
00:34:02,029 --> 00:33:59,820
logically but he claims that oh they

773
00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:02,039
were just trying to find that

774
00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:03,779
um and when they found it they called

775
00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:06,059
their bogey but bogey

776
00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:08,820
historically means an adversary or

777
00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:14,820
unknown in space in airspace right so

778
00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:17,159
um there's there's been little sort of

779
00:34:22,909 --> 00:34:19,379
like things like that and

780
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:22,919
um many instances where astronauts seem

781
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:24,419
to cover it up and I think it's because

782
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:31,070
have to they they probably have sworn to

783
00:34:37,149 --> 00:34:34,679
some kind of secrecy about this

784
00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:37,159
um you do get little leaks like Clark

785
00:34:43,609 --> 00:34:40,200
mcclellan's talked about something I

786
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:43,619
don't know if he was completely crazy or

787
00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:45,179
um you know

788
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,419
maybe uh wanted some kind of attention

789
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:50,399
but he he said that there was like an

790
00:34:56,329 --> 00:34:52,740
alien Encounter like an alien astronaut

791
00:34:59,210 --> 00:34:56,339
meeting in space during his

792
00:35:03,230 --> 00:34:59,220
um time at Nasa there's all these like

793
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,240
little anecdotal stories but

794
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:05,520
when you got video of it

795
00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:08,099
when you've got imagery of it like we

796
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,500
have in this documentary and some of the

797
00:35:16,609 --> 00:35:12,780
other documentaries in this series

798
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:16,619
you can't like it it's one thing for

799
00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:19,380
people to really speculate hard on

800
00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:21,660
um to not just brush it away and dismiss

801
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:26,520
it as bogus right and uh they

802
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:30,240
the videos and the imagery that come up

803
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:32,280
on these missions come in all shapes of

804
00:35:37,069 --> 00:35:34,200
sizes of UFOs that people have typically

805
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:37,079
seen in the atmosphere on earth like

806
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:40,260
this little sphere that's you know over

807
00:35:48,050 --> 00:35:44,760
my shoulder here and triangles and disc

808
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:48,060
shapes UFOs right so

809
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:48,900
um

810
00:35:55,609 --> 00:35:52,980
it just seems to be a continuity of the

811
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:55,619
same sort of UFOs that we see in outer

812
00:35:59,870 --> 00:35:58,140
space that we've also seen on Earth

813
00:36:02,930 --> 00:35:59,880
reported by multiple different

814
00:36:05,089 --> 00:36:02,940
experiencers military personnel

815
00:36:06,349 --> 00:36:05,099
and the list goes on

816
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,359
um

817
00:36:10,849 --> 00:36:08,640
so

818
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:10,859
to answer your question

819
00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:14,040
you know if we've got these satellite

820
00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:16,859
systems that are picking up so much of

821
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:18,060
this data

822
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:22,800
from the 1970s until now and you know in

823
00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:24,960
in the documentary fast Walkers were

824
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:28,500
essentially covering a small sliver of

825
00:36:34,010 --> 00:36:31,680
information and you said it was 283

826
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:34,020
sightings right yeah

827
00:36:38,170 --> 00:36:35,220
so

828
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,180
imagine and that's just from the DSP

829
00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:41,520
satellite system invented by aerojet in

830
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:42,839
California

831
00:36:48,730 --> 00:36:45,540
and only up till 1991. that was from

832
00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:48,740
1973 to 91 where there was

833
00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:51,660
283. so the number is far greater than

834
00:36:57,050 --> 00:36:54,119
that up until today's date just even off

835
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:57,060
that one satellite right so

836
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,920
um fast forward to today for example

837
00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:00,480
right

838
00:37:04,849 --> 00:37:01,680
um that

839
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:04,859
infamous second congressional hearing on

840
00:37:11,150 --> 00:37:08,640
UFOs just happened uh Sean Kirkpatrick

841
00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:11,160
was heading it up said some

842
00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:13,560
disappointing things the UFO crowd a lot

843
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:16,200
of people were up in arms about that

844
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:18,780
um and what happens subsequently after

845
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:21,599
that Christopher Mellon comes out and

846
00:37:27,230 --> 00:37:22,619
says

847
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,240
we have satellite imagery that is super

848
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,040
high resolution

849
00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:31,440
excuse me of

850
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:34,500
many different UAP sightings

851
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:36,599
and what is he referring to he's

852
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:39,780
referring to probably all kinds of

853
00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:41,460
Defense satellites

854
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:45,060
that are far superior to the DSP system

855
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:47,579
that ended in 1991

856
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:49,740
that have been picking up super high

857
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:51,900
resolution video

858
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:55,320
still imagery of these objects

859
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,079
interacting with our planet and uh

860
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:02,400
obviously Christopher melon knows about

861
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:05,940
that and again this documentary is kind

862
00:38:11,770 --> 00:38:07,740
of timely because we're

863
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:11,780
we're at this precipice where uh NASA

864
00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:16,400
is about to reveal in June of this year

865
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:20,220
their findings on their UAP research

866
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,960
group's efforts

867
00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:23,700
what are they going to say I mean I was

868
00:38:29,210 --> 00:38:26,820
talking to Richard Dolan the other day

869
00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:29,220
and I said

870
00:38:34,609 --> 00:38:31,859
why would you like put together a panel

871
00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:34,619
of 15 scientists unless you were really

872
00:38:39,550 --> 00:38:37,980
going to put something out there in the

873
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:39,560
public

874
00:38:46,730 --> 00:38:43,079
that serves to push

875
00:38:49,069 --> 00:38:46,740
some kind of narrative or

876
00:38:52,849 --> 00:38:49,079
um to validate

877
00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:52,859
an existing narrative right so

878
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:54,839
I think

879
00:39:01,310 --> 00:38:57,060
I'm hopeful that they're going to say

880
00:39:03,609 --> 00:39:01,320
something about uaps being real

881
00:39:09,650 --> 00:39:03,619
um and apparently they've been getting

882
00:39:13,010 --> 00:39:09,660
documentation and access to content

883
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:13,020
far greater than Arrow has even had

884
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,160
right

885
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,280
um so there's hope in the idea that

886
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:19,140
these scientists are going to look at

887
00:39:25,609 --> 00:39:21,300
this data and be like okay this is

888
00:39:28,609 --> 00:39:25,619
anomalous this is not ours or maybe it's

889
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:28,619
an adversaries or

890
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,680
maybe it's extraterrestrial maybe it's

891
00:39:37,970 --> 00:39:34,800
interdimensional who knows right

892
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:37,980
um the fact is that we have

893
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,680
lots of evidence to date that

894
00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:43,920
space-based UFOs are a thing

895
00:39:48,650 --> 00:39:47,160
and NASA probably knows about it I hope

896
00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:48,660
that

897
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:50,460
um they come clean about some of this

898
00:39:55,490 --> 00:39:53,820
stuff that's happened throughout history

899
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:55,500
yeah and it's fascinating because we're

900
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,480
all putting this phenomenon together

901
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,520
we're realizing that these things are

902
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:01,680
coming from somewhere else in the

903
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,440
universe or our galaxy they are entering

904
00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:06,720
our atmosphere then they fly through our

905
00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:09,240
air they go in our water sometimes

906
00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:10,680
people see them go through freaking

907
00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:12,660
mountains or solid objects it's it's

908
00:40:16,609 --> 00:40:15,420
just weird but it is happening and when

909
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:16,619
you start seeing it it's not just

910
00:40:20,030 --> 00:40:18,300
compartmentalizing like oh let's just

911
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:20,040
investigate it when they're in her air

912
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,420
over our Air Zone and flight patterns uh

913
00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:26,400
it's they're everywhere like it's not

914
00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:28,200
just a planet it's outside the planet

915
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:29,880
they're monitoring the whole system I

916
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:31,800
think the whole concept of space force

917
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:33,960
is try to control the distance between

918
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:36,480
the Moon and the Earth and control the

919
00:40:42,109 --> 00:40:40,140
inner uh outer you know comings and

920
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,119
goings of these entities yeah whatever

921
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,880
the CIS lunar space is the area that

922
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:46,560
you're talking about okay I didn't know

923
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:47,700
that so can you explain that a little

924
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:49,140
bit for me

925
00:40:54,589 --> 00:40:51,660
um in between Earth and the Moon that's

926
00:40:56,569 --> 00:40:54,599
called CIS lunar space okay so it's it's

927
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,579
the space between

928
00:41:02,569 --> 00:40:58,640
are to

929
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:02,579
uh astral bodies right okay and

930
00:41:07,069 --> 00:41:05,099
um so you're you're theorizing that

931
00:41:09,650 --> 00:41:07,079
space force would be protecting that

932
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:09,660
space that's all they could I think be

933
00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:11,400
able to control is maybe that distance

934
00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:13,560
if they even have that technology you

935
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:15,060
know uh we know they're recruiting

936
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,320
people but do they already have the

937
00:41:19,970 --> 00:41:18,240
ships or is the ships already built now

938
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:19,980
they're recruiting the people like it's

939
00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:21,240
kind of like the chicken in the egg

940
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:23,640
question you know yeah but we know that

941
00:41:27,730 --> 00:41:26,339
they have an autonomous shuttle they've

942
00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:27,740
been using the

943
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:30,180
X-37B for

944
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:33,720
many years now and that can go into

945
00:41:39,170 --> 00:41:36,599
space for a year

946
00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:39,180
that's crazy wow that's that's an Air

947
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,640
Force Space vehicle right that's a

948
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:43,680
shuttle that the Air Force doesn't even

949
00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:47,280
have to put Personnel on it goes up goes

950
00:41:51,890 --> 00:41:49,560
around looks at things comes back down

951
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:51,900
right what has it been doing up there

952
00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:53,640
what has it found

953
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:56,820
we don't know it's all classified

954
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,980
and it would have to be drones I'm

955
00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:00,240
thinking that we'd have to put up there

956
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:01,980
because they would have to move fast you

957
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,079
couldn't have a body in there because of

958
00:42:08,329 --> 00:42:06,000
the limitations and the complications of

959
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:08,339
having a living breathing being and

960
00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:10,020
there's a it would have to be drone or

961
00:42:15,890 --> 00:42:13,380
AI well that that thing is a giant drone

962
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,900
yeah you know it's a shuttle-sized drone

963
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:18,240
does it go to the Moon does it go beyond

964
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:19,800
we don't know

965
00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:24,540
wait I mean we may never know that's the

966
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:26,520
Air Force's Intel

967
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:28,260
yeah and the Air Force is so good at

968
00:42:32,349 --> 00:42:29,940
talking right they've been saying so

969
00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:32,359
much for 75 years yeah

970
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,380
I wanted to ask you something I've

971
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,720
always been stuck on in terms of sort of

972
00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:39,119
global efforts in space and there's a

973
00:42:43,849 --> 00:42:41,820
lot of work between Russia and the USA

974
00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:43,859
there always have been right they they

975
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:46,320
dock together in space they shake hands

976
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:48,839
they're on missions I think you know um

977
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:50,760
Mir and all that stuff it's always very

978
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:53,099
close relationship but when we talk UFO

979
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:55,020
and UAP we're like Russia and China we

980
00:42:59,390 --> 00:42:56,700
got to watch out but yet we're

981
00:43:01,130 --> 00:42:59,400
collaborating in space so uh you know

982
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,140
better than me are they still doing that

983
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:03,359
as far as Russia goes and if they are

984
00:43:08,030 --> 00:43:05,880
how do you keep your secrets yours but

985
00:43:10,609 --> 00:43:08,040
yet try to find theirs at the same time

986
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:10,619
like that seems awful complicated to be

987
00:43:15,130 --> 00:43:12,900
fighting a space race but yet working

988
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:15,140
together on the same project

989
00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:19,740
well two weeks before Russia invaded the

990
00:43:24,109 --> 00:43:21,480
Ukraine

991
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:24,119
there was Announcement by the United

992
00:43:27,890 --> 00:43:25,800
States that they were ending the

993
00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:27,900
International Space Station space

994
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,220
station program okay so I knew like I

995
00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:34,079
know it sounds like

996
00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:36,420
I guess narcissistic to some degree but

997
00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:38,700
I had a hunch that something was coming

998
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,060
when I read that headline

999
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:45,119
um I can send you the article but

1000
00:43:48,829 --> 00:43:45,720
um

1001
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:48,839
yeah I don't think the space relations

1002
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,359
are very positive right now I mean

1003
00:43:56,809 --> 00:43:53,280
astronauts are not shooting each other

1004
00:43:59,870 --> 00:43:56,819
like in Ad Astra yet

1005
00:44:02,809 --> 00:43:59,880
um they're not running around in Moon

1006
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,819
buggies shooting machine guns at each

1007
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:04,560
other that was a great sequence though

1008
00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:06,060
that was a great sequence it was cool

1009
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:09,240
maybe that will be a possible future you

1010
00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:13,680
know uh low gravity space wars but I

1011
00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:17,460
hope not could be pretty pretty uh

1012
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:20,700
hard to clean up that mess but um

1013
00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:22,440
look you've got

1014
00:44:27,309 --> 00:44:24,780
the announcement that they're ending the

1015
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:27,319
the International Space Station

1016
00:44:33,890 --> 00:44:33,060
agreement so I mean but I just saw that

1017
00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:33,900
um

1018
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:37,260
Russia was doing a spacewalk at the ISS

1019
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,079
just like yesterday or something so

1020
00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:42,480
they're still up there whether they

1021
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:44,760
agree and work together that's another

1022
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:48,720
thing and will will become hostile at

1023
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:53,400
one point I I'd say so if you know we do

1024
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,380
end up start getting

1025
00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:57,839
missile launches coming from China or

1026
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:00,900
Russia that type of thing will quickly

1027
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:03,900
turn the theater of space into also a

1028
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:07,380
war zone so that's just my logic

1029
00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:08,160
um

1030
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,700
how much they like I don't know how they

1031
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:14,160
operate together in a space station

1032
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,720
that's connected

1033
00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:17,760
maybe they're going to decouple it at

1034
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:19,800
one point you know maybe that's just

1035
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:20,819
something they're trying to get around

1036
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:23,160
to so but I do know that the United

1037
00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:25,800
States has a project to build a space

1038
00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:28,260
station like

1039
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:31,740
two times the size of the ISS

1040
00:45:38,990 --> 00:45:35,040
further into CIS lunar space so between

1041
00:45:42,190 --> 00:45:39,000
the Moon and and Earth uh right now the

1042
00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:42,200
space station just sits above the Earth

1043
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:45,180
it's one of the further out objects

1044
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,400
although there's probably all kinds of

1045
00:45:51,970 --> 00:45:49,680
classified satellites that the

1046
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:51,980
Department of Defense has launched into

1047
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,980
outer reaches of the solar system to

1048
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:57,960
monitor things coming in in and out and

1049
00:46:02,329 --> 00:45:59,520
Richard Doty mentioned that in the

1050
00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:02,339
documentary that there is a track record

1051
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,160
of that apparently happening

1052
00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:06,720
but uh

1053
00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:10,260
a official station that's deep space

1054
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,420
that's in between the Moon and Earth

1055
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:15,119
that's coming another one and that'll

1056
00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:19,260
probably be solely American or uh you

1057
00:46:23,569 --> 00:46:21,300
know a collaboration of

1058
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:23,579
allies with the United States working

1059
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,260
there

1060
00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:27,359
yeah and I think with um

1061
00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:29,400
even disclosure that brings about two

1062
00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:31,800
situations it's either we play nice in

1063
00:46:37,550 --> 00:46:34,380
space as a species that we go because

1064
00:46:39,770 --> 00:46:37,560
obviously when we start mining for uh

1065
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:39,780
gold and gold and everything else energy

1066
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,720
on the moon silicon whatever right it's

1067
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,640
gonna be crazy and we have a very

1068
00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:46,079
competitive nature we don't like to

1069
00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:48,060
share there's an abundance in space but

1070
00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:50,280
the resources of us being able to go out

1071
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,780
there and get it is going to be a costly

1072
00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:54,000
Venture and that's what I'm worried

1073
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,319
about is that it's going to create War

1074
00:46:59,450 --> 00:46:57,839
like you mentioned having ships go to

1075
00:47:01,309 --> 00:46:59,460
and from let's say the moon to harvest

1076
00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:01,319
things and you would have

1077
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,540
ships that would protect them obviously

1078
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:05,280
that makes sense but if we're all doing

1079
00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:06,599
that competing with each other there

1080
00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:08,940
would be some battles in space amongst

1081
00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:10,740
because we're so stupid right we just

1082
00:47:14,329 --> 00:47:12,060
can't get along we're like a bunch of

1083
00:47:16,190 --> 00:47:14,339
ants and uh you know what do you always

1084
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:16,200
say Jay we have all these weapons in

1085
00:47:20,270 --> 00:47:18,180
space but they're pointed back at us not

1086
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,280
exactly outer space yeah everything's

1087
00:47:23,329 --> 00:47:21,839
pointing back at us we're so stupid it's

1088
00:47:25,849 --> 00:47:23,339
like holding guns to our heads like you

1089
00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:25,859
move I shoot you shoot I shoot it's so

1090
00:47:32,809 --> 00:47:29,339
dumb but it's it is that you know like

1091
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,819
let's say uh disclosure comes about the

1092
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,380
government says these things are real we

1093
00:47:39,470 --> 00:47:36,000
need to work

1094
00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:39,480
as a species together for space

1095
00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:41,640
exploration for you know at least

1096
00:47:46,849 --> 00:47:44,040
establishing that we all agree we're

1097
00:47:49,490 --> 00:47:46,859
getting visited by one or several

1098
00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:49,500
civilizations and the implications that

1099
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:51,960
it means there but at the point that

1100
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:53,819
we're at right now Darcy do you think

1101
00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:57,060
there's any chance for a global

1102
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,980
like working together globally on this

1103
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,960
issue because it still seems like it's

1104
00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:03,359
compartmentalized you're Canadian you're

1105
00:48:08,089 --> 00:48:06,599
studying a United States project you

1106
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:08,099
know for space and you're an expert on

1107
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:09,480
that you know you don't even live in the

1108
00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:11,940
states so the fact that everything's

1109
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:14,220
compartmentalized even within the

1110
00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:15,480
country of the United States you've got

1111
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:16,920
all these different departments that do

1112
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,720
these different tasks none of them talk

1113
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:19,920
to each other

1114
00:48:23,390 --> 00:48:21,960
what's our chance like where are we

1115
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:23,400
sitting right now do you think with

1116
00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:27,180
disclosure and Unity on this matter

1117
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:28,680
wow

1118
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,440
um I think that that's

1119
00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:34,079
something I couldn't really predict like

1120
00:48:41,150 --> 00:48:35,160
I

1121
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,160
could work together with other nations

1122
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:44,160
but right now is

1123
00:48:50,329 --> 00:48:47,640
um it's probably gonna be really hard

1124
00:48:51,290 --> 00:48:50,339
just considering that

1125
00:48:54,530 --> 00:48:51,300
um

1126
00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:54,540
tensions between the East and the West

1127
00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:57,060
are at like the highest they've ever

1128
00:49:03,230 --> 00:48:59,339
been we're in uh

1129
00:49:06,589 --> 00:49:03,240
a warm War not a cold war you know not

1130
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:06,599
an outright War just yet

1131
00:49:10,910 --> 00:49:08,520
um but we're sending ships over there

1132
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:10,920
and stuff that's looking kind of bad

1133
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:12,420
right

1134
00:49:24,890 --> 00:49:20,270
look at the relationship souring and

1135
00:49:27,490 --> 00:49:24,900
even Canada recently stating that the um

1136
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:27,500
Diplomat from China I can't remember

1137
00:49:39,470 --> 00:49:35,089
politician from China was persona non

1138
00:49:42,589 --> 00:49:39,480
grata meaning like not welcome yeah

1139
00:49:44,990 --> 00:49:42,599
yeah like that's not looking good guys

1140
00:49:47,630 --> 00:49:45,000
it looks like we're

1141
00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:47,640
enhancing our hostilities more and more

1142
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,540
as every day goes by in 2023.

1143
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:54,000
so if they did announce

1144
00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:58,140
that UFOs exist

1145
00:50:02,510 --> 00:50:01,140
um it's kind of like a situation where

1146
00:50:04,849 --> 00:50:02,520
you know

1147
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:04,859
you were just mentioning Jason we got

1148
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:08,099
guns to each other's heads right and you

1149
00:50:13,069 --> 00:50:09,960
know you've got these guns to each

1150
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:13,079
other's heads and somebody walks up at

1151
00:50:19,849 --> 00:50:16,140
this uh like Showdown that's in the

1152
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:19,859
background guys goes hey guys uh I know

1153
00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:22,380
you're about to shoot each other but um

1154
00:50:26,089 --> 00:50:24,060
there's aliens

1155
00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:26,099
aliens are here

1156
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,980
and they're like uh-huh

1157
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:30,720
what do you want us to do about it we're

1158
00:50:34,809 --> 00:50:32,460
about to shoot each other

1159
00:50:38,329 --> 00:50:34,819
I mean it might be a situation like that

1160
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:38,339
or I mean Ronald Reagan did that famous

1161
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,000
U.N speech and he States uh

1162
00:50:47,569 --> 00:50:44,400
sometimes I think

1163
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:47,579
how quickly we would unite as a

1164
00:50:55,069 --> 00:50:50,880
civilization as like uh

1165
00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:55,079
uh a group uh on Earth

1166
00:51:01,549 --> 00:50:57,900
if we found out that there was uh

1167
00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:01,559
extraterrestrial uh threat

1168
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,260
out there that resolve our differences

1169
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,000
right it would solve our differences

1170
00:51:11,569 --> 00:51:08,640
right so it's like would that actually

1171
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,579
go go down would that be the play I

1172
00:51:14,809 --> 00:51:12,720
don't know

1173
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:14,819
a lot of people believe a lot of people

1174
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:16,740
believe that the entities have something

1175
00:51:20,030 --> 00:51:18,900
to do with this as well yeah I've got

1176
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:20,040
that was the first question I had

1177
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,599
written down to ask you and now is a

1178
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:24,000
perfect time so does disclosure come

1179
00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:27,660
from us or the sort of heads of Earth or

1180
00:51:31,970 --> 00:51:29,819
does it come from them whoever the hell

1181
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,980
them are like are do you think that

1182
00:51:36,770 --> 00:51:34,319
there is some involvement where we are

1183
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,780
only doing as much as we are allowed to

1184
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:38,400
be doing and they are ultimately in

1185
00:51:44,569 --> 00:51:42,359
control I don't I don't know I I you

1186
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:44,579
know you hear about stories anecdotally

1187
00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:48,000
like the Holloman Air Force Base Landing

1188
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:50,460
where apparently an extraterrestrial got

1189
00:51:57,049 --> 00:51:53,940
out of a craft and met a high-ranking

1190
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,059
official on the landing strip there and

1191
00:52:01,549 --> 00:52:00,240
they walked off to have a chat right

1192
00:52:03,950 --> 00:52:01,559
um

1193
00:52:07,849 --> 00:52:03,960
and and that's that's a contact incident

1194
00:52:09,710 --> 00:52:07,859
if it's real that's amazing and it means

1195
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,720
that we've had conversations with off

1196
00:52:12,010 --> 00:52:10,800
planet

1197
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:12,020
well

1198
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,040
non-human intelligence I don't know

1199
00:52:20,530 --> 00:52:16,640
whether they're off planet or crypto or

1200
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,540
uh you know Ultra terrestrial or or even

1201
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:22,800
interdimensional beings who knows but

1202
00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:25,260
scientifically the possibilities for

1203
00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:28,740
those types of things existing in our

1204
00:52:34,609 --> 00:52:30,359
galaxy

1205
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:34,619
is real and uh if we've had these

1206
00:52:39,049 --> 00:52:35,640
meetings

1207
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:39,059
with uh certain

1208
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:43,200
leaders from certain countries that um

1209
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:45,660
have brokered a deal or something it's

1210
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:48,420
totally possible that

1211
00:52:53,390 --> 00:52:51,000
um disclosure is a rolled out event

1212
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:53,400
that's agreed upon mutually by two

1213
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:56,000
different parties that could benefit

1214
00:53:01,010 --> 00:53:00,000
maybe one or the other or both at the

1215
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,020
same time

1216
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,839
again this is a possibility I don't know

1217
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:06,000
for sure that this is certain

1218
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,339
but I would be getting in some serious

1219
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:10,559
Stephen Greer hot water when I mention

1220
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:14,160
the next possibility that maybe not all

1221
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:16,920
of them are good out there sure and

1222
00:53:22,849 --> 00:53:19,500
maybe you can't pray or meditate to

1223
00:53:25,790 --> 00:53:22,859
bring all positivity or positive

1224
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:25,800
extraterrestrial contacts to you

1225
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:28,920
it's possible that

1226
00:53:35,809 --> 00:53:31,440
you know as on Earth there's a mixed bag

1227
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:35,819
up there in in space or just in uh

1228
00:53:42,349 --> 00:53:39,240
existence around our planet uh and

1229
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:42,359
outside of it to to deal you know in in

1230
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:45,180
nature and uh

1231
00:53:56,930 --> 00:53:52,750
if it came that way like Ronald Reagan

1232
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:56,940
uh spoke about you know saying it would

1233
00:54:03,530 --> 00:54:00,960
unite humanity and give us something to

1234
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:03,540
fear outside of our planet instead of

1235
00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:05,400
fearing each other

1236
00:54:10,190 --> 00:54:07,380
I actually don't see a problem with that

1237
00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:10,200
yeah Stephen grierson is a problem with

1238
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:12,180
that

1239
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:15,960
but yeah are they us you know like I

1240
00:54:19,970 --> 00:54:18,780
think about it kind of like this like

1241
00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:19,980
um

1242
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,220
if somebody walked into your home and

1243
00:54:28,970 --> 00:54:25,920
said this is how you should live and you

1244
00:54:30,770 --> 00:54:28,980
say wait a second this is my home I've

1245
00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:30,780
been living here for a long time and I'm

1246
00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:33,780
comfortable with my lifestyle

1247
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:35,640
um you know that would be kind of the

1248
00:54:39,470 --> 00:54:38,760
appropriate answer but

1249
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:39,480
um

1250
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:41,339
if

1251
00:54:52,609 --> 00:54:49,500
as a civilization and we're you know

1252
00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:52,619
making our own rules as we go I think

1253
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:54,900
that's more beneficial to our own

1254
00:55:00,589 --> 00:54:57,599
sovereignty to our own

1255
00:55:02,270 --> 00:55:00,599
um you know growth as a species so we

1256
00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:02,280
can figure out what's good and what's

1257
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,300
not

1258
00:55:08,569 --> 00:55:06,240
um just being told something never works

1259
00:55:11,089 --> 00:55:08,579
I mean do you guys have kids have you

1260
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,099
seen your friends that have kids when

1261
00:55:16,130 --> 00:55:13,440
you when a kid is told to do something

1262
00:55:18,589 --> 00:55:16,140
their first reaction is to figure it out

1263
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:18,599
on their own and not to listen and I

1264
00:55:25,450 --> 00:55:21,599
think as a species we are kids and if we

1265
00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:25,460
go into space uh you know as a premature

1266
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,500
civilization we're probably going to

1267
00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:30,240
make mistakes and we're probably going

1268
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,940
to be you know somebody tells us not to

1269
00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:34,559
do something we're gonna try and do it

1270
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:36,780
anyways right that's just our nature we

1271
00:55:41,089 --> 00:55:40,319
need to learn from our own mistakes so

1272
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:41,099
um

1273
00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:45,599
I think disclosure is good if it if it

1274
00:55:49,549 --> 00:55:47,819
happens a certain way

1275
00:55:51,530 --> 00:55:49,559
you know

1276
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:51,540
um this is just going to be part of our

1277
00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:53,460
human evolution and I don't know if it's

1278
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:56,700
going to go down uh a certain way or or

1279
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,569
we'll see

1280
00:56:06,170 --> 00:56:05,099
there's a new documentary on Netflix I

1281
00:56:08,569 --> 00:56:06,180
don't know if you guys have seen it it's

1282
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:08,579
on chimps it's really fascinating like

1283
00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:11,099
the imagery the the I think it's in 4k

1284
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:12,900
and they study these Champs they follow

1285
00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:15,720
them around and it's fascinating because

1286
00:56:20,750 --> 00:56:18,180
they they they're so like us the way

1287
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:20,760
that they socialize that they have you

1288
00:56:23,329 --> 00:56:21,420
know

1289
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,339
um each one of them has a role to play

1290
00:56:27,049 --> 00:56:25,440
they're they're very valuable

1291
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:27,059
and you have these people that spend

1292
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:28,920
months with them recording them in the

1293
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:30,900
woods the the Apes don't know what the

1294
00:56:34,430 --> 00:56:32,160
humans are doing they don't know what

1295
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:34,440
the camera is they're oblivious to it

1296
00:56:36,890 --> 00:56:35,520
they're just living their lives and

1297
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:36,900
doing their own socializing things

1298
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:39,900
accepting that these entities or beings

1299
00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:41,880
are there and obviously doing their own

1300
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,520
thing but to us as a species the homo

1301
00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:47,040
sapiens the surviving humans there was

1302
00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:48,660
other humans we are the only surviving

1303
00:56:53,870 --> 00:56:51,720
ones uh we have a hard time grasping the

1304
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,880
concept that maybe that we are the Apes

1305
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:55,680
in this situation and that we are being

1306
00:56:59,329 --> 00:56:57,839
observed by something else that is

1307
00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:59,339
smarter with than us and has better

1308
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:01,619
technology that we don't understand way

1309
00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:03,780
above our pay grade it's just the

1310
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,460
admittance of that just to be able to

1311
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,680
say hey wait a minute let's hear what

1312
00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:09,119
they have to say because obviously the

1313
00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:10,619
way we're doing things is not working

1314
00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:12,900
out you know we're constantly at War

1315
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,720
think about how much Misery the the bulk

1316
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:17,760
of human misery is caused by humans

1317
00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:20,640
right so it's it's why not try it their

1318
00:57:24,349 --> 00:57:22,680
way now why not just listen to what they

1319
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,359
have to say maybe we'll find a better

1320
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,400
way of being on this planet

1321
00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:28,079
Consciousness is always being brought

1322
00:57:31,870 --> 00:57:30,300
about a lot of people that we talk to it

1323
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,880
keeps bringing down about Consciousness

1324
00:57:34,849 --> 00:57:33,839
Consciousness also makes you aware of

1325
00:57:38,809 --> 00:57:34,859
other people

1326
00:57:40,910 --> 00:57:38,819
causes you to see things from their

1327
00:57:43,790 --> 00:57:40,920
point of view makes you

1328
00:57:45,170 --> 00:57:43,800
you know appreciate another person and I

1329
00:57:47,470 --> 00:57:45,180
think that's what we're getting more

1330
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:47,480
nowadays is people

1331
00:57:51,410 --> 00:57:50,280
validating other people and I think

1332
00:57:52,910 --> 00:57:51,420
that's important

1333
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:52,920
I think it's a step in the right

1334
00:57:56,569 --> 00:57:54,480
direction we're still stupid as a

1335
00:57:59,329 --> 00:57:56,579
species we still are self-destructive

1336
00:58:02,030 --> 00:57:59,339
but we're beginning to become aware that

1337
00:58:03,770 --> 00:58:02,040
other people are entities as well the

1338
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:03,780
same as us and we're more than just

1339
00:58:08,329 --> 00:58:05,880
physical bodies this is just operate on

1340
00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:08,339
this plane only five senses that's very

1341
00:58:13,569 --> 00:58:10,920
limited you know we're trying to solve a

1342
00:58:15,710 --> 00:58:13,579
big problem you know like a big Lego

1343
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:15,720
Masterpiece castle and we only have a

1344
00:58:18,829 --> 00:58:17,400
few blocks right and we're trying to

1345
00:58:20,569 --> 00:58:18,839
figure out how the whole thing works so

1346
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:20,579
uh

1347
00:58:25,490 --> 00:58:22,800
this level of

1348
00:58:28,010 --> 00:58:25,500
investigations that you've done for you

1349
00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:28,020
know on NASA and about net is as crucial

1350
00:58:32,809 --> 00:58:30,660
as any other aspect of ufology and if

1351
00:58:34,910 --> 00:58:32,819
not more important because we are seeing

1352
00:58:37,609 --> 00:58:34,920
that this activity is coming from space

1353
00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:37,619
that these things are entering from a

1354
00:58:42,170 --> 00:58:39,540
different location into our atmosphere

1355
00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:42,180
and then we have another branch of study

1356
00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:44,280
which is about what they're doing in the

1357
00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:46,200
sky what they're doing with people

1358
00:58:50,569 --> 00:58:48,380
because obviously it's a big operation

1359
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,579
Darcy I don't know about you but I know

1360
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,040
for us we keep we're blown away by the

1361
00:58:57,530 --> 00:58:55,440
cost of this operation for them because

1362
00:58:59,630 --> 00:58:57,540
these crafts are designed to come here

1363
00:59:00,410 --> 00:58:59,640
they have rooms inside of them that are

1364
00:59:02,990 --> 00:59:00,420
like

1365
00:59:05,690 --> 00:59:03,000
hospital rooms designed for a human to

1366
00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:05,700
be on to have these you know gadgets

1367
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,260
come out and do experiments on people

1368
00:59:12,049 --> 00:59:09,359
it's a costly Venture for them this

1369
00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:12,059
would cost us trillions of dollars to to

1370
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:14,520
execute so it's interesting that they're

1371
00:59:18,349 --> 00:59:16,559
here and it don't seem to be causing us

1372
00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:18,359
any issues right now so that's kind of

1373
00:59:25,069 --> 00:59:22,740
positive yeah I wonder if uh like costs

1374
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:25,079
or economy or even a thing to some of

1375
00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:28,319
these future Advanced societies that is

1376
00:59:34,190 --> 00:59:31,619
a human construct for sure right

1377
00:59:36,589 --> 00:59:34,200
um and it it creates a pyramid of power

1378
00:59:39,970 --> 00:59:36,599
it creates uh

1379
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,980
essentially leaders and servers

1380
00:59:45,049 --> 00:59:42,240
surfs but

1381
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:45,059
um yeah I mean

1382
00:59:49,549 --> 00:59:47,520
there's a whole range of phenomenon

1383
00:59:51,470 --> 00:59:49,559
happening here and if you believe in

1384
00:59:53,089 --> 00:59:51,480
abductions which I've I made a

1385
00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:53,099
documentary on that I believe that

1386
00:59:58,329 --> 00:59:55,740
there's truth to some of that

1387
01:00:00,829 --> 00:59:58,339
um you know certain leaders in this

1388
01:00:04,370 --> 01:00:00,839
research field will say oh that's all

1389
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:04,380
just my labs and human uh LED

1390
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:06,960
experiments and stuff to trick people

1391
01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:10,020
all aliens are good I don't know

1392
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:11,940
but um

1393
01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:16,559
there's lots of reports of these types

1394
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:21,420
of things happening uh even today and so

1395
01:00:29,450 --> 01:00:24,660
it makes one wonder what you know

1396
01:00:31,970 --> 01:00:29,460
what is this all about is this a opt-in

1397
01:00:33,950 --> 01:00:31,980
uh system you know are these people

1398
01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:33,960
being warned before they're being taken

1399
01:00:40,430 --> 01:00:38,220
no you know it's very intrusive it's uh

1400
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:40,440
it doesn't sound like

1401
01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:43,440
it sounds more hostile and advantageous

1402
01:00:49,010 --> 01:00:46,440
to one side to one of the parties than

1403
01:00:52,970 --> 01:00:49,020
to the person that's taken aboard a

1404
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:52,980
craft or something right right so

1405
01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:53,520
um

1406
01:00:58,849 --> 01:00:56,819
I I think there's some really

1407
01:01:01,370 --> 01:00:58,859
interesting implications to do with that

1408
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:01,380
and uh perhaps

1409
01:01:06,589 --> 01:01:04,319
you know the American Military knows

1410
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:06,599
about that and other militaries around

1411
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:10,680
the world you got to realize that

1412
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:13,440
all over the even China has had

1413
01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:16,020
uh UFO experiences where they've had to

1414
01:01:21,710 --> 01:01:19,140
shut down airports because

1415
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:21,720
unidentified flying objects are flying

1416
01:01:26,750 --> 01:01:24,299
right within the flight path of Landing

1417
01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:26,760
aircraft and you know taking off

1418
01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:28,380
aircraft

1419
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:30,180
um that's happened in history we have

1420
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:34,079
had West all 66 in Russia we've had the

1421
01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:36,960
bent Waters base you know rendelshim

1422
01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:39,960
incident in the UK in Africa the Ariel

1423
01:01:45,710 --> 01:01:41,700
school

1424
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:45,720
um in Peru we had a pilot Chase and

1425
01:01:52,930 --> 01:01:49,200
shoot at a object with their Sukhoi

1426
01:02:00,289 --> 01:01:56,990
Iran yeah we covered the 1976 Iran Mass

1427
01:02:02,089 --> 01:02:00,299
witness event at night where you know

1428
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:02,099
there was rolling blackouts in the city

1429
01:02:08,329 --> 01:02:03,119
and

1430
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,339
frightened of this two objects that were

1431
01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:10,319
flying over that City this happens

1432
01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:13,260
everywhere you know so

1433
01:02:17,210 --> 01:02:15,960
it leads one to believe that we're not

1434
01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:17,220
in control

1435
01:02:23,030 --> 01:02:19,140
and I think

1436
01:02:25,370 --> 01:02:23,040
um the militaries of the world want to

1437
01:02:28,730 --> 01:02:25,380
allude to the idea to their citizens

1438
01:02:29,809 --> 01:02:28,740
that they have control and

1439
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:29,819
um

1440
01:02:36,170 --> 01:02:34,319
I think the UFO incidents either are our

1441
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:36,180
tests

1442
01:02:42,349 --> 01:02:39,839
um from you know Advanced parts of

1443
01:02:45,230 --> 01:02:42,359
certain militaries around the world

1444
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,240
checking out other countries and and

1445
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,000
possibly testing their capabilities

1446
01:02:53,329 --> 01:02:50,640
or they could be from

1447
01:02:56,329 --> 01:02:53,339
beyond Earth you know they could be from

1448
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,339
some extraterrestrial source and that's

1449
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:58,319
really interesting both implications are

1450
01:03:02,450 --> 01:03:00,480
really interesting to me and it could be

1451
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:02,460
a hybrid of the two as well right it may

1452
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:05,040
not be 100 one or the other and I think

1453
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,040
opinion and experience plays a lot into

1454
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:10,079
how you look at the phenomenon you had a

1455
01:03:14,089 --> 01:03:11,520
good friend of ours on your movie Jimmy

1456
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:14,099
Blanchette who as we know is using moon

1457
01:03:19,549 --> 01:03:16,980
bounce technology broadcasting basically

1458
01:03:21,410 --> 01:03:19,559
a radio Canon into space way more

1459
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:21,420
wattage than you would need and when we

1460
01:03:24,349 --> 01:03:23,160
had him on our show I said Jimmy isn't

1461
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:24,359
that kind of like you don't know what

1462
01:03:27,289 --> 01:03:25,440
the hell you're doing man you're making

1463
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,299
noise in the woods you don't know who's

1464
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:29,280
out there and he said never had a bad

1465
01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:31,440
experience none of our ce5 groups have

1466
01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:33,660
ever had a bad experience because we're

1467
01:03:38,450 --> 01:03:36,660
inviting loving entities into our life

1468
01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:38,460
and I've chatted with somebody who's a

1469
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:40,799
trained remote viewer who says that

1470
01:03:44,569 --> 01:03:42,480
these things can be downright evil and

1471
01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:44,579
will mess with your head and sometimes

1472
01:03:48,829 --> 01:03:46,260
You observe things and they're aware of

1473
01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:48,839
themselves being observed then the

1474
01:03:53,390 --> 01:03:51,240
energies are there and you know so so I

1475
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,400
guess opinion plays a role in it but

1476
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:55,200
also experience if you had an abduction

1477
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:56,579
experience and it was really

1478
01:04:00,890 --> 01:03:58,799
traumatizing you may not think they're

1479
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,900
so friendly but if you've had somebody

1480
01:04:05,630 --> 01:04:03,119
who's had like a Kundalini experience or

1481
01:04:07,609 --> 01:04:05,640
like a spiritual awakening it's like

1482
01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:07,619
Nirvana on planet Earth and there's

1483
01:04:11,569 --> 01:04:10,020
nothing but love and good so I

1484
01:04:13,549 --> 01:04:11,579
definitely think opinion plays a lot

1485
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:13,559
into this and yeah you know your movie

1486
01:04:17,390 --> 01:04:15,900
did a good job of not taking a side you

1487
01:04:19,309 --> 01:04:17,400
presented all the evidence and you left

1488
01:04:20,809 --> 01:04:19,319
it there for you know intelligent people

1489
01:04:22,370 --> 01:04:20,819
to make their own opinion and that's

1490
01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:22,380
essentially what we try to do with this

1491
01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:24,240
show and I think he did a very good job

1492
01:04:29,450 --> 01:04:26,700
with your films I appreciate that guys

1493
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:29,460
yeah uh Jimmy Blanchette really

1494
01:04:33,490 --> 01:04:31,920
interesting researcher

1495
01:04:35,569 --> 01:04:33,500
um scientist

1496
01:04:37,730 --> 01:04:35,579
uh you know

1497
01:04:40,609 --> 01:04:37,740
somebody who's actually testing out

1498
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:40,619
their own technology and trying to see

1499
01:04:44,690 --> 01:04:42,540
what happens

1500
01:04:46,670 --> 01:04:44,700
um you know we had Seth trostack in the

1501
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:46,680
documentary and kind of comparing

1502
01:04:50,089 --> 01:04:48,960
contrast look this guy's looking for

1503
01:04:54,650 --> 01:04:50,099
signals

1504
01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:54,660
uh that are coming from light years away

1505
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:56,880
um that we probably will only ever see

1506
01:05:02,690 --> 01:05:00,000
once because the way that a light year

1507
01:05:05,329 --> 01:05:02,700
works is it's thousands of human years

1508
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:05,339
away and

1509
01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:08,400
by the time we probably send a response

1510
01:05:13,309 --> 01:05:11,040
back we're you know they're either going

1511
01:05:17,329 --> 01:05:13,319
to be dead or maybe we're dead before

1512
01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:17,339
they respond to that second response but

1513
01:05:22,490 --> 01:05:20,940
um their whole protocol when I asked

1514
01:05:25,069 --> 01:05:22,500
Seth

1515
01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:25,079
um you know what if you do get a signal

1516
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:27,240
that seems to be highly anomalous and

1517
01:05:33,470 --> 01:05:30,480
could be from another uh solar system

1518
01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:33,480
with intelligence behind it he said well

1519
01:05:38,510 --> 01:05:35,700
we have to

1520
01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:38,520
once we rule out that it's not from

1521
01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:41,700
Earth or not from some you know Quasar

1522
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:46,619
or prosaic uh explanation then we have

1523
01:05:54,049 --> 01:05:51,359
to decide whether we reach out and reply

1524
01:05:57,710 --> 01:05:54,059
uh because there's implications that

1525
01:06:00,049 --> 01:05:57,720
maybe there's dangers to that you know

1526
01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:00,059
that you're inviting somebody that may

1527
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:02,160
have nefarious

1528
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:04,079
um interests right

1529
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:05,520
but

1530
01:06:09,710 --> 01:06:06,960
um

1531
01:06:12,109 --> 01:06:09,720
but yeah Jimmy all of his Communications

1532
01:06:15,950 --> 01:06:12,119
are positive I hope that he's only

1533
01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:15,960
inviting positivity I'm sure you know if

1534
01:06:22,490 --> 01:06:17,640
you're a human and you send out a bunch

1535
01:06:24,109 --> 01:06:22,500
of uh positive postcards to strangers

1536
01:06:26,270 --> 01:06:24,119
you're gonna get a couple creeps and

1537
01:06:27,890 --> 01:06:26,280
that uh sorry you can bleep

1538
01:06:30,410 --> 01:06:27,900
that out you can get it okay we're

1539
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:30,420
leaving all right you can get it we used

1540
01:06:33,770 --> 01:06:32,099
to swear a lot and now we don't swear

1541
01:06:36,049 --> 01:06:33,780
enough so it's refreshing we like it

1542
01:06:37,490 --> 01:06:36,059
yeah might kill your algorithm with

1543
01:06:40,609 --> 01:06:37,500
YouTube though but

1544
01:06:43,390 --> 01:06:40,619
um you'll get some creeps that will come

1545
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:43,400
to the party you know uh some

1546
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:47,039
know-it-alls that are blowhards that

1547
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:50,400
um want to control the the conversation

1548
01:06:56,990 --> 01:06:54,240
and uh totally punch down and treat

1549
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:57,000
everybody like they're idiots and

1550
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,280
um State absolutes that's the part that

1551
01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:01,680
that state absolutes yeah some of those

1552
01:07:06,349 --> 01:07:03,780
creeps will stay absolute since some of

1553
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:06,359
them will just outright hurt people you

1554
01:07:14,089 --> 01:07:10,319
know and uh I worry about that happening

1555
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:14,099
to Jimmy but so far it hasn't

1556
01:07:18,890 --> 01:07:17,520
um and he's a good guy's friend and uh I

1557
01:07:21,950 --> 01:07:18,900
wish him all the luck with his research

1558
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:21,960
and I hope that um you know somebody

1559
01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:24,900
from a academic institution watches my

1560
01:07:30,170 --> 01:07:27,480
documentaries sees what he's doing and

1561
01:07:32,809 --> 01:07:30,180
they rule in on that and they even help

1562
01:07:34,730 --> 01:07:32,819
him understand what these messages are

1563
01:07:39,470 --> 01:07:34,740
that he's getting on his walkie-talkies

1564
01:07:42,349 --> 01:07:39,480
and why they seem to defy physics in a

1565
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,359
certain way I I would invite that you

1566
01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:44,400
know and I hope that Jimmy has the

1567
01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:46,380
opportunity to get certain folks to

1568
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,059
reach out to him after seeing my

1569
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:50,160
documentary so

1570
01:07:53,690 --> 01:07:51,420
um yeah

1571
01:07:55,010 --> 01:07:53,700
I think it's Nikola Tesla again our boy

1572
01:07:56,510 --> 01:07:55,020
that I always quote but he says

1573
01:07:59,650 --> 01:07:56,520
something to the effect I'm paraphrasing

1574
01:08:01,730 --> 01:07:59,660
here that one Humanity starts

1575
01:08:05,809 --> 01:08:01,740
discovering or investigating or

1576
01:08:08,029 --> 01:08:05,819
researching uh the non-physical World it

1577
01:08:10,250 --> 01:08:08,039
will do more advancements in one decade

1578
01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:10,260
than it has in the last hundred years

1579
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:12,480
and I absolutely believe that this guy

1580
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,599
was on a different level right just you

1581
01:08:19,490 --> 01:08:17,040
know some somebody that we all should

1582
01:08:22,010 --> 01:08:19,500
admire because he contributed to

1583
01:08:24,349 --> 01:08:22,020
humanity in such a huge way and got zero

1584
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:24,359
out of it you know what I mean it was a

1585
01:08:28,490 --> 01:08:25,920
selfless act and we needed to be more

1586
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:28,500
like him and these days uh you know we

1587
01:08:31,849 --> 01:08:30,120
mentioned this a few times but science

1588
01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:31,859
and philosophy need to merge back

1589
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:34,620
together at some point they took their

1590
01:08:37,970 --> 01:08:36,239
own separate ways but I think they need

1591
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:37,980
to merge back together especially in

1592
01:08:40,669 --> 01:08:38,880
this

1593
01:08:42,590 --> 01:08:40,679
phenomenon which is not really a

1594
01:08:44,809 --> 01:08:42,600
phenomenon it's in happening right it's

1595
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:44,819
it's no longer strange we're realizing

1596
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,759
that it's a daily occurrence so we have

1597
01:08:51,289 --> 01:08:49,679
to merge those two back together to

1598
01:08:52,130 --> 01:08:51,299
understand what's our place in all of

1599
01:08:54,169 --> 01:08:52,140
this

1600
01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:54,179
where are we at what does it mean on

1601
01:08:58,910 --> 01:08:56,040
many different levels and it takes

1602
01:09:00,590 --> 01:08:58,920
people like yourself that puts this on

1603
01:09:02,209 --> 01:09:00,600
the map puts it out there for people to

1604
01:09:03,650 --> 01:09:02,219
say hey just pay attention to this for

1605
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:03,660
two seconds

1606
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:07,199
and listen to what I have to say and you

1607
01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:09,600
bring pieces of the puzzle together for

1608
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:11,940
people and that's great Darcy where can

1609
01:09:15,050 --> 01:09:13,319
people find you

1610
01:09:17,229 --> 01:09:15,060
oh thanks man

1611
01:09:19,729 --> 01:09:17,239
um they can find me on Instagram

1612
01:09:23,689 --> 01:09:19,739
darcyware films you can find me on

1613
01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:23,699
Twitter uh occult Journeys

1614
01:09:29,870 --> 01:09:25,620
um and

1615
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:29,880
Facebook Darcy Weir uh probably missing

1616
01:09:34,669 --> 01:09:32,640
some YouTube occult Journeys I just put

1617
01:09:36,289 --> 01:09:34,679
my like trailers and some stuff up there

1618
01:09:36,890 --> 01:09:36,299
too

1619
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:36,900
um

1620
01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:38,640
thanks for having me on guys and if

1621
01:09:42,769 --> 01:09:40,380
people want to check out the film I'll

1622
01:09:45,950 --> 01:09:42,779
send you a link that uh they can check

1623
01:09:49,789 --> 01:09:45,960
it out anywhere in the world by just

1624
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:49,799
clicking one link uh and a lot of my

1625
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:53,279
previous films are available on 2B TV

1626
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:56,880
Amazon Prime iTunes Apple TV that type

1627
01:10:03,229 --> 01:10:00,840
of thing 2btv is completely free and

1628
01:10:05,330 --> 01:10:03,239
um you know a lot of that stuff is

1629
01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:05,340
available in Canada so if you have a lot

1630
01:10:08,990 --> 01:10:06,780
of Canadian listeners and they want to

1631
01:10:12,530 --> 01:10:09,000
check out my back catalog there I think

1632
01:10:15,410 --> 01:10:12,540
there's about 12 films that are free on

1633
01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:15,420
2B TV so feel free to check that out I

1634
01:10:22,669 --> 01:10:18,239
really appreciate you supporting me as a

1635
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:22,679
uh you know theorist and researcher and

1636
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:25,800
uh just a filmmaker as well you know uh

1637
01:10:31,130 --> 01:10:28,800
by having me on and letting me speak my

1638
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,140
piece to this stuff yeah we really

1639
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:32,880
appreciate it man you're a smart guy

1640
01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:35,280
well spoken you're open-minded you don't

1641
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:37,620
have uh you're not hardened and chiseled

1642
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,540
like a lot of people that you know have

1643
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:41,280
formed their opinion 30 years ago and

1644
01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:42,840
have a hard time getting out of that so

1645
01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:44,820
you're doing good work and I mean let's

1646
01:10:49,310 --> 01:10:47,460
be let's be honest since 2017 a lot of

1647
01:10:51,290 --> 01:10:49,320
new people are starting to look up and

1648
01:10:52,910 --> 01:10:51,300
starting to read feed and they don't

1649
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:52,920
know all the stories going back to

1650
01:10:56,810 --> 01:10:55,140
Roswell and Randall Shum and you know

1651
01:10:58,729 --> 01:10:56,820
all the deep dark stuff so you did a

1652
01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:58,739
very good job taking a complicated

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subject breaking it down into digestible

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format that people can can watch and

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learn something from and we'd love to

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have you back again sometime in the

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future for sure yeah so you're always

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welcome guys yeah I appreciate that yeah

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any new movie comes out you want to come

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out and promote it anytime Darcy you're

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always welcome here man I appreciate

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that I'll definitely uh now that I know

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we're neighbors maybe we can go for a

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beer sometime you got it let's yeah

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let's aim for that uh so Darcy where's

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our Our Guest today um Louie and I

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really appreciate everybody please leave

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comments uh below uh this let us know

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what you think of this conversation what

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do you think about this whole subject if

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you haven't liked and subscribed please

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do so and do follow Darcy as well his

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career he's very informative and

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contributing to this field of study in a

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big way so thank you everybody for

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listening Louie I'll see you I think

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tomorrow we're doing another uh

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interview see you tomorrow brother and

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Darcy stay in touch okay my man thanks